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#OldSchoolSaturday – Michael Jackson vs Prince (Jay Z & Ye of The 80’s?)

Is Jay Z & Kanye West The New Michael Jackson & Prince?

(WWETV Network) I listened to the new Meek Mill album “Championships” and it’s a banger of an album, but the standout on the project it seems is Jay Z. His verse about Kanye West and the Maga hat created quite the stir online. 

onstage during the 2012 BET Awards at The Shrine Auditorium on July 1, 2012 in Los Angeles, California.

No red had, don’t Michael n Prince me and Ye

They separate u when y have Michael n Prince’s DNA

Jay Z – What’s Free

Now some websites ran with the verse above thinking Jay Z was dissing Kanye West. Jay Z has however made a rare appearance on Twitter to clear the air about the verse. 

Jay Z doesn’t only deny any diss towards his brother Kanye, but also promotes the fact that Drake and Meek Mill aren’t against each other anymore being on the album together.

As you know how The Venom does already I take you down memory lane and have a different approach to things. What I want to do is analyze the claim that Jay Z and Kanye West have the DNA of Michael Jackson and Prince. Is this true and what does that line actually mean?

The video above gives a summary of these two all time great and their supposed rivalry. Now who would be Michael Jackson and who would be Prince in terms of Jay Z and Kanye West. Kanye West once proclaimed himself to be the new King of Pop, but that line actually exposed just how far removed he is / was from the throne in the video below. 

Kanye West has publicly stated how Michael Jackson paved the way for him for the barriers he broke down for African American artists from the 1960’s – 1980’s. However, he also proclaimed he reached a level where Michael Jackson didn’t in terms of branching out into other ventures.

Did Jay Z mean that Kanye West is Prince? Prince was an artist who could play various instruments and craft his own production. This is similar to how Kanye West could be categorized as a producer who makes music for various artists along with himself. Kanye West’s greatest album many say is My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy where West created a full length film out of the project. 

If there is to be a comparison with Michael Jackson the counterpoint would be the groundbreaking “Thriller” music video which is off the album of the same name which holds the record for most sales in history.

Now it is to be said that Michael Jackson’s accomplishment with the music video “Thriller” was something out of this world in the 1980’s and catapulted him from the Prince of R & B (he had the most selling album ever in the genre at the time with “Off The Wall”) to the King of Pop. The production behind the great album has been well documented that the plan for the project was to save the music industry and needless to say they achieved the high goal.

There was an issue when Quincy Jones was compared to Kanye West and Talib Kweli breaks down why the two can’t be compared. 

This interview above was in reference to Quincy Jones speaking with The Vulture where he made some remarks that ruffled the feathers of the hip hop community. “West is similar to you in that he’s the producer everybody wants to work with in the last decade….” And Jones interrupted:

How man? No way. Did he write for a symphony orchestra? Does he write for a jazz orchestra? Come on, man. He’s just a rapper. There’s no comparison. I’m not putting him down or making a judgement or anything, but we come from two different sides of the planet. I spent 28 years learning my first skill. I don’t rap. It’s not the same thing. A producer has to have some sort of skills that enable him to be a producer. It’s totally different to know what to do with 16 woodwinds you know from piccolos down to bass clarinet. It’s a whole different mindset. No comparison. None.

Quincy Jones

As with Jay Z’s statement above, Quincy Jones quickly went online afterwards to stop any division with the younger producer/hip hop artist in the media by giving a quote to quench the fire. 

I’d appreciate it if people didn’t take my comments about Kanye West ( @KanyeWest ) or anyone else for that matter out of context to contrive a story. I have nothing but respect for my little brother Kanye and what he has achieved in his young career and I look forward to watching his evolution as an artist. There is a reason why we put him on the new We Are The World 25 for Haiti – he’s a great rapper. But having been in the music business for more than 60 years and having been fortunate to accomplish what I have over that time, it’s not unreasonable to put a comparison of Kanye at this time in his career and myself into the proper perspective. This is not dissing Kanye, this is simply trying to express that I’m not a rapper! I don’t need to take anyone else’s props away from them. Let’s all just try and keep the record straight

Quincy Jones

Nas who recently released an album entitled “NASIR” under Kanye West production once alluded to West as a young Quincy Jones although the album collaboration would be panned by critics.

So I leave with my estimation that Jay Z views Kanye West as a Prince because of his musical accreditation which is quite clear, but it also sums up why Jay Z was actually praising Kanye West and not dissing him even more. Speaking of Jay Z who does he represent in the verse between the two mega icons of music? Jay Z once proclaimed that Michael Jackson had the perfect album with “Off The Wall” which made it timeless. 

“‘Off The Wall’ was one of those albums that was timeless, that didn’t have a genre. It was just like one of those things that the whole family listened to. I think it was a perfect album. I think ‘Thriller’ although was the biggest album, you know had huge records, but these records that were on ‘Off the Wall’ were so timeless and emotional.

Jay Z – On The Record with Rhapsody

Jay Z’s line on the Meek Mill song can be clarified by a verse he done before about being Michael Jackson that appeared on the single “Party Life” from “American Gangster”. 

Damn! Ay baby I said I’m
I’m “Off the Wall” I’m like a young Michael Jackson
These other niggas is Tito
Shout out to Randy, hehehehe
Real talk !

Jay Z – Party Life

There is a video online that has become a meme that took place right after a monumental moment of seeing Jay Z and Michael Jackson together at Summer Jam in New York. 

Jay Z spoke about the moment and how he never saw anyone get that kind of reaction Michael Jackson did at a hip hop concert ever. He also talked about how Michael Jackson loved Jay Z’s flow. Now how many rappers could say they made a song with the legendary Michael Jackson?

The great thing that Jay Z and Kanye West did that the two 80’s superstars didn’t do was that huge collaboration. It almost happened as we saw stated earlier in the Prince vs Michael video, Prince vetoed the planned “Bad” collaboration due to creative differences. The fans got to see Kanye and Jay Z in videos for the album “Watch The Throne”. 

In the land of the free, where the blacks enslaved
Three-fifth’s of a man I believe’s the phrase
I’m 50% of D’usse and it’s debt free (Yeah)
100% of Ace of Spades, worth half a B (Uh)
Roc Nation, half of that, that’s my piece
Hunnid percent of Tidal to bust it up with my G’s
Since most of my niggas won’t ever work together
You run a cheque up but they never give you leverage
No red hat, don’t Michael and Prince me and Ye
They separate you when you got Michael and Prince’s DNA, uh
I ain’t one of these house niggas you bought
My house like a resort, my house bigger than yours
My spou- (C’mon man)
My route better of course
We started without food in our mouth
They gave us pork and pig intestines
Shit you discarded that we ingested, we made the project a wave
You came back, reinvested and gentrified it
Took nigga’s sense of pride
Now how that’s free?
And the people stole their soul and hit niggas with 360’s
I ain’t got a billion streams, got a billion dollars
Inflating numbers like we ‘posed to be happy about this
We was praisin’ Billboard but we were young
Now I look at Billboard like ‘Is you dumb?’
To this day, Grandma ‘fraid of what I might say
They gon’ have to kill me Grandmama, I’m not they slave (Ha-ha-ha)
Check out the bizarre rappin’ style used by me the HOV
Look at my hair free, care free
Niggas ain’t near free
Enjoy your chains, whats your employer name with the hair piece?
I survived the hood, can’t no Shaytan rob me
My accountant’s so good I’m practically livin’ tax free
Factory, that’s me
Sold drugs, got away scot-free
That’s a CC, E-copy
Guilt free, still me
And they expect me to not feel a way to this day
You would say y’all kill me
Sucker free, no shuckin me
I don’t jive turkey
Say “Happy Thanksgiving”
Shit sound like murder to me
Smoke free
All of y’all calling out toll free
Labels rob you for millions yet
you wanna put a hole in me
Sugar free, seasoned but I’m salt free
Lay a hand on Hov, my shooter shoot for free
I promise World War three
Send an order through a hands free, kill you in 24 hours or shorter you can’t ignore the hand speed
On god, it’s off the head this improv
But it’s no comedy
Sign I fail, hell naw (Ha-ha)

Jay Z